User talk:Testid123
Deciding your Future Level of Contribution on ModEnc
Hello Testid123.
It has been quite noticeable that, despite the fact that you're confined to your talk page, you have spent a lot more time adding data to ModEnc (if only this page) than 99.999% of the community.
In fact, considering that almost all people complaining about you haven't been here or of relevance for the past six months, on many days, you make up 50% of ModEnc editors.
This, paired with the fact that running your own side-ModEnc on your talk page isn't really viable, leads me to believe that having you edit the proper pages would be more useful than the status quo.
On the other hand, the last time you had the ability to edit proper pages, you left a swath of destruction and antagonized all other users.
Obviously this must not happen again.
If you are willing to commit to a respectful, peaceful and cooperative editing style, I am willing to look into extending your editing permission to all talk pages and to allow you to submit new revisions of pages for review.
Due to your past behavior, these revisions would only be committed after somebody else reviewed them.
If the reviewer sees an issue with the edit, you could talk it out on the page's talk page.
This offer is entirely contingent on you keeping your cool.
Should you begin attacking or antagonizing others or vandalizing pages again, you would be banned again, and this time without permission to edit your talk page.
You would be out completely.
Basically, the status quo doesn't make sense.
The point of banned users having access to their talk page is to communicate about their ban, not for them to copy half the site into their talk page.
I'm offering you a "more or less" deal: If you can behave, you can return to editing regular pages under supervision. If you're not willing to behave, then it's time to conclude that there will never be an effective collaboration with you and that the sane solution is for you and ModEnc to separate.
I would appreciate an honest response regarding your view of the situation, whether you believe you can work respectfully, peacefully and cooperatively with all others on this site, and whether you are willing to commit to doing that.
Thank you.
Testid123: 🙂 1. I'm interested in your proposal, but there are still people on this website who disagree with me, so I'll continue to edit my discussion page. (If you unban me, I'll continue to edit my discussion page.)
2. I copied the content from the website because they didn't take the time to research and test the tags.
And I've noticed that even after so much time, some of the tags still haven't been updated.
So, if you're going to check my data, try using it in-game first. If it doesn't work, add it to the actual tag page, which I can't edit.
3. And if you cut me off, your website will be missing a lot of new data. Even if someone adds data, it'll only be about 10% to 30%.
Since this is a wiki, it should be a place where people communicate, collaborate, and share knowledge on existing pages. It obviously shouldn't be used as a personal notebook by dedicating a page for that purpose. Regardless of the quality of contributions, as long as they are not destructive, they can be improved and accepted. I think Renegade's proposal is good, though implementing it properly would require a non-trivial amount of additional effort. Moreover, before you make more demands, perhaps you should think about what you have done to ModEnc. logs The information in the is still preserved there, and anyone can check it.
- Re-1:
- Hostility towards 4SG and G-E is not a reasonable justification, nor is it a positive collaborative attitude. Collaboration means having to learn to work with those who hold different opinions. You must face your past behavior; acknowledging and reflecting on these facts is a necessary starting point before discussing the future.
- Tracing the root of your ban, it was precisely because during normal editing collaboration (e.g., editing disputes with user 4SG), you chose to use offensive language and revert others' contributions instead of resolving issues through discussion. Even during the period when you were banned and could only edit discussion pages, you did not stop attacking others in edit summaries.
- We once had productive collaboration when you several times reverted the DefaultToGuardArea flag's value type back to integers after I changed it to boolean, and on one occasion, you even provided an ini screenshot trying to convince me. So, on your User talk page (here), I provided you with screenshots from IDA and pointed out the misconception in your description regarding the relationship between DefaultToGuardArea and GuardRange, then left it to you to correct that page independently. At that time, we efficiently resolved the issue by sharing evidence and having calm dialogue. Wasn't our cooperation good back then? Why did you later start always thinking that only you are right and not listening to others' opinions?
- Re-2 & 3:
- Regarding data contributions: You believe the reason you copy content is that others haven't fully tested it, which is understandable, but applying for permissions and submitting reviewed revisions on formal pages is more conducive to knowledge integration and improvement, and it's easier to identify errors in the content you add.
- Regarding the 'loss of data' remark: Please do not use expressions like 'missing a lot of new data' to try to exert pressure. A healthy wiki does not rely on any single individual. The 'data' you mentioned is of varying quality.
- Take your conflict with E1 Elite on the MultiplayerOnly page as an example: you stubbornly reverted reverse engineering-based accurate information (from what I saw, E1 Elite was calmly explaining how it works to you throughout this process), and even after I appealed not to vandalize the page, you came to my discussion page to make threats.
- Another example is your addition regarding NukeMaker: you proposed so-called
Adding the NukeMaker=yes tag to the Warhead of weapons that Projectile have the ShrapnelWeapon tag seems to fix this issue without requiring Ares or Phobos, although the ShrapnelWeapon tag's effect doesn't actually work.
- In essence, this avoids crashes through the disabling of the ShrapnelWeapon function, which has no practical reference value for modders. Such 'data' added without deeply understanding the mechanisms and considering practical application value can hardly be called responsible.
- In summary:
Since Renegade is willing to give you an opportunity to contribute under supervision, if you can commit to and practice respect and collaboration, your edits can be accepted through the review process.
But if you are unwilling to change and continue to insist on ineffective accumulation on personal pages or attack others in edit summaries on your own User talk page, then others will definitely not have unlimited patience with you.
Testid123:1.From "Another example is your addition regarding NukeMaker: you proposed so-called
Adding the NukeMaker=yes tag to the Warhead of weapons that Projectile have the ShrapnelWeapon tag seems to fix this issue without requiring Ares or Phobos, although the ShrapnelWeapon tag's effect doesn't actually work.
In essence, this avoids crashes through the disabling of the ShrapnelWeapon function, which has no practical reference value for modders. Such 'data' added without deeply understanding the mechanisms and considering practical application value can hardly be called responsible."
[!] Do you think I can't really use it? (Of course you won't believe me because I have no proof since I can't upload photos or videos, but if you want to know, I can send you the ini file that I can use).
2.Why do you keep saying "You're putting up with me?" After I got banned, I didn't edit the main page of that tag.
3.If you don't care about the "inefficient work," then what's your problem with my talk page? I'll just save it on this website for easy access.
4.You don't need to bother me anymore. Is my talk page ruining this website?
5.What do you really want from me? Are you my boss? and I have to report my progress to you every time I finish a task?
6.If you get an unsatisfactory response, please reconsider the message you sent me today.
7. And it remains like this every day.
- 01:33, April 3, 2025 EvilRenegade talk contribs deleted page User:Testid123 (fucking children and other spam)
Decision Time
Alright. I had some real-world shit to deal with, that gave you 10 weeks to think this over.
DeathFish used the time to provide some additional input.
As I expressed back in November:
If you can behave, you can return to editing regular pages under supervision. If you're not willing to behave, then it's time to conclude that there will never be an effective collaboration with you and that the sane solution is for you and ModEnc to separate.
I need you to decide whether you are willing to cooperate with other editors and have your edits checked before they are put live, or not. If you do not want to edit under those circumstances, then that is fine, but the logical conclusion would be that you will no longer be allowed to edit ModEnc at all.
Your "decision" of "I'll continue to edit my discussion page" is expressly not an option.
The situation is fundamentally silly as it is. Beyond that, the massive load of hundreds of templates in this disjointed mess is also affecting the functionality of the page. I can't even preview this edit because the server breaks down in the process.
This will not continue.
Your choice is between editing normally under supervision or parting ways with ModEnc.
There is no third option.
Please state your choice clearly and unambiguously so we can resolve this situation once and for all.
1. Your decision to "I will continue editing my discussion page" is definitely not an option.
Testid123: It seems you never even look at my content.
2. This situation is already ridiculous. Furthermore, the enormous burden of hundreds of scattered templates is impacting the page's functionality. I couldn't even preview this edit because the server crashed during the process. This will not happen again.
Testid123: It's never so ridiculous that you consider this ridiculous. Why would I waste my time on something so trivial?
3. Furthermore, the enormous burden of hundreds of scattered templates is impacting the page's functionality. I couldn't even preview this edit because the server crashed during the process. This will not happen again.
Testid123: Everything is due to being blocked, and I always have new content.
Since I can't edit the regular page of the old tag, I add new content here.
4. This will not happen again.
Testid123: It will continue to happen as long as I have internet access. And all problems will disappear when you unblock me.
And it seems that the website https://modenc.renegadeprojects.com/Main_Page crashed because of me alone.
During the time I wasn't blocked and could still edit the page normally,
my content was never reviewed, and my content seems to have no approval at all.
If you're not as stupid as I think, don't try to force me to accept an insincere offer.
You can unban me in 1 day to see my response.
- Considering your perpetual unwillingness to understand or acknowledge that your behavior is an issue and that a change to integrate with others would be necessary, paired with a continued disrespect towards those running the site, I must come to the conclusion that there is no hope for rehabilitation.
- Last year's decision of an indefinite ban will thus be permanent, and since the matter has been settled conclusively, there is no reason to leave you editing rights to the talk page.
- It's unfortunate that it has to be this way, but you have shown no signs that anything would change in the future.